Sync between devices
I would like to have my notes automatically appear on my other note devices with papyrus installed. E.g. Create a note on note 2 and it appears on my note 10 1. If possible allow editing too from that device.
This is something we’ve been investigating since the app’s inception and we continue to investigate constantly. Syncing is a very difficult problem to solve, especially in regards to handwritten notes which can be combined with images and text. I don’t have any kind of ETA for when syncing will be supported, but rest assured this is a high priority for us. We appreciate all your feedback on this idea.
Volker Brand commented
don't try to rebuild a big solution like Evernote and so on, think easy, keep it simple, that's the charm of your Product.
Maybe do in a way like this:
At time of first saving of a new document, give every document an unique document id and build a hash over the document and sore it with the document in two values, as the "actual-hash" and "cloud-hash" value. (take care to use a function who can generate an unique ID asynchronous[offline] on different devices) take also care that the document name is a part of the document content, so if the name was change the hash changes also!
Now you have every information to decide if an document can be updated exor should better save as a new Version
after any saving of the document build a new hash over the document and store it as the actual-hash value, if the document is storing to the cloud then save the stored actual-hash as cloud-hash value to the file.
Syncing to the cloud-store:
direction "local -> cloud"
for all local documents try:
If the cloud is available and the local document ID is not existing on the cloud store, then copy the value actual-hash to cloud-hash and save the document on the cloud store.
else (If the cloud is available and the document ID is existing on the cloud store) check:
if the local document "actual-hash" == cloud document "actual-hash" -> document is in sync, do nothing
else if the local document "cloud-hash" == cloud document "actual-hash" -> do save local document to the cloud-store (write over the cloud file)
else ( the cloud document was changed by another device -> Migration conflict existing ->
generate a new document ID and store the document local and to the cloud with a Version Info(Date_Time_Info) attached to the document Name (if the local document name differs from the cloud document name, merge the Names and attach the Version Info)
direction cloud -> local:
for all cloud documents try:
if the cloud document ID is not existing on the local store, then copy and save the cloud document to the local store.
That's all, such a solution is simple and in case of an Migration conflict, the user can decide if she/he wants to merge the documents or not.
I hope you will read this and think about it, maybe you did it already.
just store data in files on SD or extSD.
I see greed of taking paid for "cloud services" can be tempting, but NONE of these provide any privacy , while 3rd party non-clous based sync services do.
If you want to be one of those that provide some privacy , unlike Evernote, onenote and others, you need to rethink this and provide files.
I agree with kgingeri.
Andrew, is it possible you're over-thinking this? Synchronization at page level is sufficient for me: most recent revision copied across to other devices. The mechanism could even make use of the existing backup process over wifi so users aren't expecting instantaneous synchronizing.
Sorry for cross posting, but I still think adding meta data (tagging) is the only thing you should be working on at the moment. Have a look at how Evernote does this - then do it better. If I could tag my notes (inline with the handwriting would be awesome!) and then push the pages tagged as "Actions" out to Trello via IFTTT or Zapier it would raise my productivity to a whole new level.
Andrew, even a master-slave (read-only slave even) sync would be a great first step. So I could refresh my sketches on a 'slave' device as either read-only or knowing that any changes will not be persistent (a bit ugly ;v).
Sorry for taking so long to post an official response on this idea. Thanks Shiraz for suggesting posting an update/explanation. Please continue to provide your feedback!
Shahroze Wajid commented
It's the best note taking app and this feature is a must!!!
This is basic for a cloud age.
Totally agree. This is the only thing is stopping this wonderful note taking app from be the best handwriting app ever. I really need too be able to access my notes on all of my devices.
Shiraz Mistry commented
26 August 2015 - A new name (http://feedback.papyrusapp.com/knowledgebase/articles/716574), but still no word from the company on the progress of this suggestion. Maybe the developer or developers have left the company. Maybe this is too hard a task. Who knows. It would be nice to get some update from Steadfast Innovation.
Leo “YOURFACE” Rodriguez commented
I would like not to have to jump through hoops when I want to review a notebook on one device that was created on a different device.
Sadir Omer commented
That would be a awesome features to have..
Can you please add a synchronization between devices. This app is amazing but adding across device synchronization would be awesome.
Shiraz Mistry commented
I believe that the benefit of having an app like Papyrus to quickly jot down notes is the purpose of it. As the app has developed over time, I am happy to support (and pay for) the direction the team is taking. What I would like to see (and possibly a copy) is for sync to happen on my two Android devices. Maybe we can have an update from a member of the team since this suggestion began the investigation on Dec 21, 2014.
ACTION: Can a member of the team update us, please?
N Harvey commented
Was so disappointed that my new Surface Pro 3 couldn't share notes with my Galaxy Note. I use Papyrus to run my entire life, so it would be so nice!! I'd pay $$ for this feature!!
Guillermo González de Garibay commented
I guess it is complicated because of the format, but a nice idea would be to use PDF as the only format, instead of the dual PDF and backup-file (in whichever format you use internally).
In that way the transition:
open PDF from cloud --> edit --> close&save-to-cloud
could be seamless, such as in simple PDF editors like Adobe Acrobat.
You could still have the option "keep in notebook".
I cannot add more votes to this... take them all!!!
Jeff Stroup commented
I'd love to have my notes sync between Surface and my SG Note Pro 12.2
I am trialing your cloud backup option & whilst it worked initially with only a few notes in Papyrus, now with a lot more notes (imported PDFs) it just fails to back up.
I keep bouncing between LectureNotes & Papyrus because whilst I prefer the scrolling in Papyrus & the speed at which it imports & generally gets things done, moving between devices & having the files available (Dropsync) on both is actually possible in LectureNotes.